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Why do you need to get them to do actual logic? Efficient and effective reasoning in formal logic systems is a long-researched thing that had mature tools long before transformers were invented; calling external tools from transformers is also a solved problem, so for any task where something requires non-trivial logic why not just have the transformer transform the task to a formal decription of a logic problem and send it off to a discrete reasoning engine? We don't need to hope that a calculator emerges from a transformer because we have a calculator and can integrate one, and in the same manner we already have discrete reasoning engines and just need to use them - historically the major obstacle for using them was the effort of going from the actual problem description (often fuzzy, especially if involving human language) to something suitable for a reasoner, but transformers are good at such transformations.
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AThey sent us the agreement, and now we said, yeah, tomorrow we'll do it. And we went and we stayed. We took our bags and all. We stayed the night. And in the morning, like, we both wake up and there's, like, dead cockroaches in our blankets. Oh, we obviously knew that, like, that wasn't.
BWe didn't sleep with dead cockroaches in our blankets.
AI'm like, first of all, what went down here? But, like. Like, we gotta leave. And Tito, like, is frightened, like, mortified. So the whole day we went to ntu, we were, like, in our lab or whatever, and we were, like, not thinking about work at all. We were just like, what the are we doing?
BHow do we get out?
AHe's like, dude, I have to get out of there. I'm like, bro, but we already, like, agreed to sign this lease or whatever. He's like, let's just do it now. She won't be at home. We just left from the lab in the middle of the day, went to the house, took up, like. And there was a house help there. We didn't tell her. We were like. Because there was an Indian woman. We just took our bags and we off. And then we, like, started dodging this woman's calls and all. And then she called us, like, and then eventually I answered, and she was like, well, I'm gonna report it to the police. I'm gonna, like, do all this. And I was like, bro, we've taken pictures of the fact that, like, this is an inhospitable environment. Yeah, it was just like. I think that the cockroaches were just like, why would.
CShe reported her police, though?
BShe's like, yeah, informally agreeing to a lease and then, like, even staying one night. Yeah.
AYeah, but we hadn't signed anything, so she couldn't have done anything. Yeah, dude, but we were on this.
DBut there have been situations where you're, like, in that situation, but you have to face it again the next night where, like, you know, this might happen,
Cbut you have to sleep.
BI slept in my room that night.
DLike, what happened with Mia? Yeah, she had to sleep that night. Like, not.
BI think that that night I slept in your room. But, yeah, I had to live in that room, continue living in that room.
DThat's the.
BUntil that woman moved out.
DMy God.
AI mean, when I've gone for some camps and stuff, like, you, there are, like, insects and lizards and stuff in your tent, and you have to do night off, but you kind of just like.
EThere was one camp we used to go to as kids that was in like a farm. And like the whole point was that you immerse yourself in this organic nature, how to farm and all. Outside Bombay, I can't remember where it was. We also sleep on the stars in some tent. And I remember there was one bathroom where everyone would take turns to shower or whatever. So I remember I had gone in and then I came out of the shower and was like, nightmare xxx100 because within like a few seconds a huge fucking frog has jumped and landed on my tower.
BLike here.
EAnd then like right there is a coiled up snake.
BI was just like, what the. Wake up, wake up, wake up. Just so stressed out.
EI remember just dying, just being like,
BI don't know, what am I supposed to do right now? Get off me. It was the.
EOne of the worst experiences of my life.
BAnd then they were like, don't move, don't move. And I was like, I just saw. Please take this frog off my chest.
EIt was horrible.
BWiped out.
CI would not. I would throw clothes, everything away like that.
EIt was really bad.
BLike, I don't understand this nature thing at all.
CYeah, yeah. I don't understand, like, I'd rather go clam irl.
BI don't understand this, this nature thing at all.
EI loved the farming and all. I will say I loved it.
BNo, I'm not fit. I'm not an outdoorsy person. I don't think the glamping or camping.
CGlamping is fine.
BI am a big fan of indoor plumbing. Ever since we invented it, humanity has been better. You can bathroom, but I want it attached to my room.
CLike glamping is fine. Glamping is good. Like it's. As a closed environment. There's ac.
BYeah. Actually, to be fair, I'm not glamped. But wait, last time we're doing one rv. No, we're not.
DI mean, don't. I wouldn't call that glamping.
BIt's an rv. Yeah, it's not glamping.
CNo rv. But do you have to handle the.
BNo, we don't.
DOkay. I was unstable.
CHow do you know what I'm asking about?
BBecause we've looked at RVs.
CBecause of that pipe situation you have to handle.
BYeah.
CNo, I mean at the end you
Bhave to take the poop out
Ein an rv.
CIt'll be fun. But the. There are sewage situation, you have to empty the tank and all that.
BI mean you can do either that. But some also have dry systems where the poop just gets into a dehydrated bag and Then you have to take the poop bag out.
AHow do they do this on airplanes? Like how do they like replace.
EYeah, I was wondering.
AI don't know enough because that one Delta flight that we took from Puerto
CRico back here, those guys, they say it's still. Wait, do you know the toilet on Artemis 2 got clogged? The space. The space shuttle. The space shuttle that recently went and came back, the toilet had got clogged in the first few days. Yeah, yeah. And they were sending like it was in the news, like the toilet. Imagine you had space with strangers and a toilet is clogged. You have to figure it out. Floating against gravity.
DYou got Excel also. No, the Excel thing also happened.
COutlook. Outlook issue. Yeah, Outlook was out as usual.
EI actually want to know who does the play. I'm guessing it that they are trained
Cof course to manage all flights.
ENo, my question is more on a long haul flight, where does it all go?
DSo they have a continuum, there's a storage container, but do you think it's big enough? Yeah, I'm sure they have like estimated
Cthings and can they have done a worst case scenario of like there have
Abeen flights that have.
DLook up blue eyes.
COh yeah, the Air India. The Air India flight. All toilets were clogged and had to return.
AThere wasn't Air India.
BYeah, three out of four. It wasn't all.
AOh, there's like a British. You going have to like fly back because of the toilet being clogged or something.
EYeah, cuz that's a health hazard. Vacuums sucked into sealed tags on board the plane.
CThey should have an incinerator there. No, but in the flight you can.
EOn the ground, a service vehicle called a honey truck connects to the aircraft.
CWho comes up with these names, connects
Bto the aircraft and empties.
EThe waste of a secure system for treatment in this
Choney truck.
DHow much test testing do you think they've done on the system? Like wasn't there also that 99th percentile test?
BI'm sure they have fell somewhere and then like people were like worshiping this mysterious crystal that's come from the sky. Yeah, there was that whole thing that happened in some like forest. It fell.
DI don't know if that was a parody or something.
EEvery time.
BNo, I think it's real.
CWhat?
ALike it was a parody movie, right?
DThe blue eyes thing?
BNo, no, I think this really happened.
AThere was a movie about this.
DYeah, because whether it's real or not or this tribe, that was that. No, the God must be crazy. That was a.
CThat was A classic bottle in a uncontacted tribe.
DBro. Every Bombay school showed that movie.
CI've not seen it, but I've heard about it. Like, but there is that uncontacted tribe. No North Sentinel in Andaman.
DThere are many.
CThere was one guy who died like two, five, six years back. He. He went there to give them Bibles. He said that, like something. And then they shot him with a bow and arrow.
EHave you guys been to Andaman and Nicobar?
CNo, but it's supposed to be really nice.
BI've not been to either. Lakshadwee.
C70% is like, we can't go because, like, I think Navy, like.
BBut like, also if we don't go now, like one by one, those islands are going to start disappearing. Like, we have a short window where
Ewe can go start diving with him.
ANo, no.
CYou should see the show on Netflix called Kalapani. It's pretty good.
EAlways talk about.
CIt's about a pandemic that starts in Andaman Islands and how the Indian government and whatever, all this, they have to try to contain it. Like they have to quarantine the island from the rest of the country and they'll find the origin of the virus and all. It's. It's pretty good. But this is.
BIt's just called cruise ship and all has gotten about.
COh, yeah, Hunter virus.
BWhat is this?
CIt's. There's a cruise ship off the coast of Argentina is this. There's a small local epidemic of Hunta virus and they are not letting the ship dock because they have. They're all infected with that.
BI would like very much. I don't know what this is, but I would like very much that.
DContagious. It's much more lethal, but it's not contagious.
BOh, my God. I would like for there to be one pandemic in my life.
DI think basically I read some export news. Like, it's not something that would cause.
CIt's just off the coast of Argentina somewhere there's a ship.
BYeah, coast of Argentina doesn't mean anything. People just travel everywhere. And we live in New York. Like, Argentina doesn't mean anything.
EI actually noticed a lot of people with double masks. Yeah. Everywhere I'm seeing like, people like double masks. Like, I have no idea why I was like, what are you all scared of?
BI mean, you know, if I was
Da human to human transmission in that virus here.
BSo how did they get it?
DSome animal in.
BOh, they banned the food. Something.
DSome animal. I forget which animal.
CThere's no human to human Transmission yet.
DYeah, yeah, but the lethality rate is 30, 40%.
CDamn.
DIt's very lethal.
ECaused by rodents.
DYeah, rodents.
AOur old enemy. The plague.
CThe plague hunter virus. Nobody come up with such names.
DSome guy was like, I ain't dying by some.
CA bat, a pango.
BI mean it was one of a man.
EA pangolin man ate a pangolin.
BOh.
CBut no one still knows where covet came from. And. And the lab leak theory is now it was. It used to be like conspiracy that time it's pretty like it's mostly lab leak only now.
EYeah, possible.
CYeah. At that time it was like outrageous to even utter it. Like, you know, at that time the to there was this whole cancellation thing of like alternative theories. Like anyone would say that came from China would just get like cancelled.
ABut it.
CThere is a lot of evidence pointing that it did.
BBut it did come from China.
CI think lab leak and all that was.
BBut at that time the people who were hurling those accusations were hurling on the basis of racism. They were not hurling them on basis of. Based on this train.
CThere were a lot of these people who were saying like there are a lot of podcasters and all over.
BI don't care about podcasters.
CBut it's just. Everyone was just cancelled directly again, everyone.
BAlso. I don't know what. How to answer that sentence. But like I'm saying at the time, accusations being hurled saying that this virus is a lab leaf from China came from a lack of evidence and came from a place of racism.
CNo, fine. There were races who were saying it, but there were also people who are saying that we. Like there were all these institutions like who. And all these people who are saying no, no, it's not that for sure. Saying we don't know for sure.
BYeah. I don't think who has ever said it didn't come from China. I think they still didn't know. Which is an example overall who.
CNY Times and everyone. They were rejecting any other theory.
BThey were not.
CThey were. They were pretty.
BWe don't know.
CNo, it wasn't. It wasn't. So we don't know. They took a side. It was little soft on China by times did.
BBut I don't think who took overall
Cliberal institutions were soft on China at that time.
BI don't know how to answer that, like how to respond to that. But I'm saying I don't think who took a side. I think it's acceptable for institutions to say I don't know.
CAnd I'm not saying it wasn't. I don't know, the overall conversation was not, I don't know overall. Don't question that was the overall thing.
BSend me some articles.
CI, I just, I, I just remember this from that guy.
BSend, send if you can find.
ACDC was like pushing a lot of like, this is the only way.
CYes.
ALike this is the best practice. Do this, do this, do this without. Like they should have been sure. And they were like making it seem as if scientifically this is the only thing we should do, such as like take this vaccine, like whatever the mask thing, like all of these other things. And they were like, don't. Anything other than this is not to be trusted, not to be followed. Which I think they were just being overconfident in their actual knowledge and handling of that disease.
CLike a lot of things later got proven against them also. Like, I'm not saying there are all these crazy right wing conspiracy bros. Yeah.
ABut yeah, I saw some telegram. Like, I saw some. There was like a document, some kind of documentation of like how there was these viruses being developed and stuff like that by like white people who were like working in labs. There was something like that. So I saw some videos going around at the time. But like it was like, we don't know what to trust. I don't think those were coming from place of racism. But I think a lot of almost all of the narrative was very much like these Chinese people. Like, yeah, yeah, they like racist, whatever. But I think there was a section of stuff which was like, based on like people who had spoken out, which I saw at the time that I remember.
CAnd it doesn't help that right now all the voices on this are more RFK Jr and Joe Rogan, but they all kind of.
BYeah, it's so hard to tell the apart from like an actual conversation.
CBut it's not untrue that that Fauci did some shady. Also like they were doing like all this testing in labs.
BSay a sentence like Fauci did some shady.
CLike, no, there's a lot of. Is this. I do have to like justify everything.
BI would like you to say something that makes sense. Right?
CNo, there was, there was like, I had, I don't know, I had seen some videos saying that there was Fauci, they were involved in some lab testing overseas.
BNow if you heard someone say a sentence like that to you, how would you respond? There were videos.
CYou decided that this is one thing. That is correct.
BEverything else is decided. I have not decided anything, Chuksi. But if you heard a sentence saying, I've seen videos of Fauci doing some lab testing, how would you react?
COkay, I. I don't know, like, what to say.
BI. I also don't know. What.
CI don't believe anything. What? After the Epstein files came out. Like, I don't reject any conspiracy.
BI don't blame you because all this
Cfelt crazy to me and it was all true so much.
BAgain, I'm. I'm agreeing with you. Yes, but what you said is very vague and I don't know what to say.
CLike, I'm just saying we don't know enough. It could have been anything. Like, it could have just been through animals. Covid. It could have also been some testing. It could have been intentional. To up the world supply chains, to shatter the economy. It could have been anything.
BYeah, but your argument now is that a. Like a bizarre child sex trafficking scam.
CNo, no, I'm not talking about them
Blike, no, but like, your argument right now is a child traffic sex trafficking scam was revealed, which has destroyed my trust in institutions and now.
CNo, it's not just a child sex trafficking scam.
BI'm saying, but a child sex trafficking scam was revealed. And so my trust in institutions is destroyed. And so I don't find anything trustful.
CIt's not completely destroyed, but I do. I do.
BYou have a level of cynicism.
CYeah, I do have a level of cynicism. I don't trust anything just because someone is saying that because New York Times reported it has to be correct.
BAgain, that is entirely fair. But it is also very difficult to have a conversation that does anything about that level of vagueness. Like you're saying I just don't have a level of trust.
COh, okay, so I don't.
BSo you're saying Fauci is shady and after.
CI didn't say he's shady. I'm just saying the narratives that were built up. The narratives that were built up about him being some like igdam crazy, godlike figured was not true.
DI think you're just me. Like, I get what you're saying. I'm also very cynical about what I see on the media.
CI'm not saying. I'm not saying he's shady. I never said he's shady.
DI just said it's unfalsifiable.
BWhat you're saying is unfalsifiable. I think that's what I'm trying to say.
CBut this is not a court of law. I can't say it.
AYou can still be questioned for it.
BYeah, sure, you can be questioned for it. And I think it is not helpful to say or it is not productive to say unfalsifiable things. It doesn't make for great conversation. Like, I can say something like, you can't prove God isn't real. And it would. Yeah, you can't prove. Or you can't. You can't do either. But, like, it's not a fun conversation.
ERight?
BLike, it's a very vague statement. Or it's like a.
CSo, I mean, I was not. It's not deep. I was just saying, like, it's not. Like, everything doesn't have one side. That's all I was saying.
BLike, agreed. I agree with that. But that is also a very vague thing to say.
CSo then everything I say is vague? Only then?
BNo.
CWhat. What do I even say then?
BOkay, for example, just don't say anything.
ALet's just move past this.
BYeah.
CEverything I will say will be weighing on me unless I come with, like, testimonies and evidence. Like, for everything.
BYeah. If you say something like, Fauci, rumors is not sexy.
ALike, as I would say that that's the only thing.
BIt's like, let's say something specific about Fauci. Yes. But if you say Fauci was involved in shady things. Yeah. Like, it's hard to have.
CI'm not. Okay, cool. I didn't say that. I'm just saying the pedestal that he's been put on by the media. I don't know, like, but I feel
Alike that's already been kind of. I don't think I can put someone on a pedestal anymore. As far as I know.
BI. I don't know what. I didn't know of a pedestal. And now I don't know.
CAt that time, at least, maybe the content I was consuming did put him
Aon a pedestal specifically, but, like, he
Cwas leader of CDC at the time.
AIt was like, oh, CDC's word is like, follow this.
BSure.
AWhich I was like, okay, exactly.
CLike, yeah, you should have been.
AAnd now that we know better or whatever, we know that, like, some of the claims they made were not true. It's just like, why was it so, like, in. In your face, so much confidence that, like, this is what you should do? This is what you should do. We are, like, the leading authority on this.
CI'm saying, like, that. Only I'm not, like, saying any, like, random flat earth type theory or something.
BI didn't react also, like you did. Again, like, I'm sorry if I came out too strong, but, like, it was also very vague.
CI'm just talking about the general distrust I'm seeing.
BYeah.
AIt's like an unprecedented time. Like it was so weird how everyone acted and how like.
BBut yeah, I would like for that to be the only pandemic I see in my lifetime.
DYeah.
EI guess I just feel like post pandemic things have gotten like way more intense in my experience either. When we're older, we just feel things and notice things.
BThings more.
EBut I'm just like, I don't know what's happening.
AStarted popping off after.
BYeah.
EEveryone's losing their.
BThe world is just like falling apart. It's like a pre pandemic era.
ELike it feels like two eras of our lifetime where things are just G and then things are not G anymore.
AThings were moving in that direction already.
BYeah.
EObviously things were getting set up for this chaos.
BBut like, I don't know what happened
Ajust popped off after.
BI just remember it was pandemic.
EThen I remember there was the Black Lives Matter movie.
BI have other bhakti.
EI will lend it social media outreach right after like this whole like social media, like propaganda like crazy thing.
DI don't think anything's changed in the world. It's our. The information. It's an information overload transformation of the Internet.
BLike it's a breakaway technology. Yeah. Like society is changing.
DCulture has become too online.
BYeah. Culture is evolving as a response. Response to this new media technology which happens every time new media is introduced to the world.
DPeople culture.
BWe are seeing that everyone's too online. We are seeing that in combination of like the pandemic. So I like those things are a lot of like Internet effects also.
DLike the human brain wasn't supposed to take in so much information about the world.
CAnd it increased a lot post pandemic.
DTwitter post pandemic.
CIt increased a lot.
DPlatforms have seen. Yeah. And like. Yeah, that's the problem. The world hasn't changed.
BI think or it has, but it wasn't because of the pandemic and the.
CThe maybe, I don't know, the ease with which people are able to give their opinions has increased much faster
Aeconomic impacts.
CRight.
AAnd like that does have like a ripple effect on like world world events.
DYeah. Yeah.
AI think there was some doubt a bit effect because of the economic like volatility of like how the markets went. Went down. So much went up so much. There was so much rehiring. Then there was an over correction. Then there was like layoffs. Like this kind of happen still happening.
BLike we're not past it. Like post pandemic layoff, hiring layoff hiring life cycles. It's not stabilized.
AYeah.
EWasn't some recently was it?
BMeta?
CYeah, we do every quarter.
BI don't know how like if to say congratulations or like be worried for him.
CYou are Ashwini, ex roommate.
DYeah.
AHis parents are visiting right now.
CWhat did he join us?
AHe's thinking of coming out to them.
DNice.
AWhere did he join us?
CData scientist.
AProduct data center analyst Growth. I don't know. He was generally like a data analyst.
CYeah, I was at exl. I know.
AYeah. And he.
CThey are a consulting company but like mainly the Amex is. He was his client was at Amex when my client was also Amex.
ASo I remember they do like sports. I think he joined the Vision Labs team which is like the Ray Ban.
CYeah, I wouldn't join right now.
DI took it up.
CMetas is a very scary place to go right now. Meta Amazon Pia.
EI will give you a different hair clip.
DOh, I hope this is like not very meaningful or something.
ENo, no, it's new, it's fine.
DCool, cool.
BI have.
EI can bring only two with.
DNo, I'm gonna fix it or something.
BHuh? Yeah, we have.
EWere you excited to take it apart or what?
DNo, it broke it and now he
Bhas to take it apart because he believes he can fix.
DNo, I can fix it 100%.
EI believe in you also.
BDon't worry.
EIt was like 16 nice. Yeah.
BWhat do we have dessert wise? Let's see. We have mangoes.
EObviously mangoes be a morning snack. Okay, fine.
BWe can do it.
AI can peel it. You don't have to.
EIan is a pro peeler. I cut myself so badly, man, trying to cut it Ivan's way.
BHe looked at me aghast when I
Ecut him a mango Gombe.
AShe eats it like an animal.
EI know. You know how you eat an avocado like I eat a mango like that.
AWell actually no, because when you scoop it from the.
EYeah, I mean do the pineapple method.
ASometimes she says she does but she actually just like cuts it and like.
BNo, when you weren't at home, I
Edid it my way and I was fine. And then I tried doing it your way and I cut myself.
AYeah, yeah. I mean that is a dangerous. Unless you. Okay iPhone. You can't cut yourself.
BIt is but it should take a
Esecond
Bbefore I'm done
Ait.
CSo how much do you think I should.
AActually.
BLet's see. Start pouring and then maybe I'll
Efat has coaculated system. Is the ice cream making still going on?
DNo, I don't think she made anything after the lemon. Did you have the lemon ice cream?
EWe had the strawberry one.
DOh, she made lemon. That was really good.
EYou liked it? Yeah. I'm only saying
Bput half a scoop.
CStrawberry also. It made.
DYeah. When these guys were. We made strawberry tomatoes with chunks, chocolate chips.
ERemember, we were trying to decide which one had to be in which.
DWe just mixed them in the end. Right. We made two batches or something. This broke. All I need to do is push this spring and latch it here. But.
CAre you wearing tools?
EImpressed with this fashion? It's like Lego. Like, take it apart and put it back together. This crabs dam. This.
CWhat? Yeah. Even the prawns that I had were, like, really intense. Yeah, they were huge. I've never had. I don't know, I've never.
DWe've not had prawns. Yeah, prawns are big. Much bigger than shrimp.
BYeah.
EYeah. The big prawns taste a little different and they.
CAnd the viscous. Can you eat that part under the.
DBro, you wasted half.
EYeah, yeah, I eat. I usually like the prawn head.
CYou could eat. You could eat that.
BYeah.
EIt's the tastiest part of the prawn.
BYou know, like a bisque.
EA prawn bisque is called only the
Btop, like the head.
EThey boil it and that's it.
CBut right now, that whole prawn was there. I ate the tichika part, which is usually served in shrimp, but then the agika part had all the whiskers on the eyes, so that was also edible. Oh, that is edible.
BYeah.
CHow do you eat it? But it was hard.
BYeah.
ELike, it depends on how big the prawn is and how hard the head part is, because the smaller the prawn, you see, the softer it is.
CThe under part was soft, so I was trying to scoop out whatever I could from inside.
BThere's a way to do it also.
EI mean, I showed you if I was there, but because actually a large part of the shrimp goes into the tail and into the head. So if you cut it properly, like some. Sometimes the restaurant will do it fewer. They, like, they'll bring it for presentation, but they'll.
CYeah, that's convenient.
BBut yeah, the.
EVery often, like, we just, like, after we eat the prawn, then we pick up the thing and, like, take out the rest of the meat from inside the head. But yeah, if they're not used to this, what are they doing?
DThe spring is. I just need to.
ENot you guys. What are you all doing?
BYeah, I'm missing some epic Shittas going
Eon here with Sajan guys.
DThere's nothing going on. She's.
CThey're making whipped cream I think.
BBut I don't mind. I feel like my body cloth has now become used to this kind of timing.
AOh my God.
BAnd I think it's also nice to like match sound good but like it's nice to have a lot of daylight out. I don't wake up too much after. I don't feel like a wasted daylight.
DI need to have a shower before I sleep. I sleep really well after a shower
Cactually even Me too. Yeah.
DFeels damn nice.
EI. I love. I have to shower twice a day. I like roll out of bed and I'm like I can't function like if I haven't.
CAnd then at night I don't in the morning immediately I don't like. I usually take a shower at around
Dlunchtime after gym I do it. Yeah. I mean yeah. Whenever.
ENo, I don't have this habit of like showers like make me. I don't know be very like calm and grounded. So like sometimes you don't have a stressful day. I don't have any kind of habit. I just find myself going for a shower at 4pm just cuz I'm like I just need.
CI used to do that a lot in Mumbai.
EIt's sticky also I guess.
CYeah. I used to take a lot of Kolshas and now your account. You're in the summer also. I'm doing hot shows dude.
DMumbai. I was there for one summer because I didn't like my summer intern was in Mumbai and our college rooms didn't have ac.
CYour summer intern was in Mumbai?
DYeah.
CWasn't a college in Mumbai?
DYeah. Yeah. But my summer intern was also in Mumbai. One summer intern and we didn't have like ac. Right. So Itna humidity in used to wake up drenched in sweat.
CBro, I can't. You can't live in Mumbai without AC now though. It's not possible.
DYeah. I mean yeah. Mine was 10 years ago but I used to wake up drenched in sweat. I used to go to sleep naked only in boxers and wake up the whole bed would be wet every day. Every day. It was insane.
CBro. I like a place like Mumbai. Like I don't know. I. I couldn't like I don't care about the electricity bill.
AYeah.
CI honestly I don't give a charge me whatever. I will blast the AC day and night. Yeah. I'll say I won't go out and eat in the month. I'll save money if I Have to but I. I cannot skimp on ac.
DAnd like coolers also don't work. Right. It's so humid temperature water coolers.
CI've never.
DYou don't know. Oh yeah, Mumbai people would know. It just works on like the evaporation of water in dry like Delhi heat for example. So the cooler will have. It's a fan and it's a box. Just pay heal Agawa and he. It serves as a surface for evaporating water. So the water evaporation makes it cool. Like it reduces the temperature and the fan blows the air so it feels really cool without any. It's like natural ac. You've never seen a cooler?
CI probably must have. But like then why do people use that like and not ac? It's cheaper.
DIt's cheaper. It's much cheaper. It's no very low tech. It's just water. Water and some electricity. Right. It's just a fan and water.
CI remember in those science experiments in those exhibitions we used to just optimize different kind of. We used all those fans. Hot air out, cold air and then there'll be stones. There'll be water on the stones and yeah, yeah.
DAir blowing through that like essentially that
Eonly would have just seen that my friend is opening for the FIFA.
CIs opening for the FIFA performing Wow.
EAs his name is Sanjoy.
CBut as what like oh wow.
EThey've picked a lot of different artists time for.
CDid you see the FIFA? The President, he said that there's a 2 million dollar FIFA ticket and he said whoever buys that I will personally deliver them a hot dog and a coke. Yeah. Hey let me check the finals.
BThe finals.
D10k type go 55.
EI just saw the official announcement for my friend.
CKaty Perry is back.
AWhat kind of music does he do?
CKaty Perry. The first lady of Canada.
BThe real housewife of Floral Corbett.
AWho's sand? All right gang. India mangoes and cream. Yeah.
BRather like friends house can't be beat. It's simple. It's two ingredients.
EYeah, yeah.
BI who just whipped some cream. This entire evening has been for me like I've not been like this.
CIs Oha. 56, 55.
DI know dude.
CFinals.
AOh that's yeah, that's kind of what I expected.
C50,000.
AI paid this like three years ago. I'm like this is what the price range is going to be.
BTruly.
DYeah.
BThat's insane. This for any match or.
CNo, it's finals.
BOh finals.
EOkay.
CAny match is also like dude, weren't
Dwe going to like rent out our apartment?
CYeah, but we can't do it. No. How will we do it?
DInformal group.
CHow about. How will you find people?
DYou think there'll be a demand problem?
CNo, but how will you advertise it?
DLike on Facebook groups.
BI'm sure you can. I don't think that's the problem. I think.
EYeah. I cannot believe she doing the ceremony.
BThe Indian dance.
ENo, she's actually not Indian.
BShe's something else.
EShe's not even Canadian. She's some from somewhere else.
CLike, look at this. Some random match. Spain vs Cabo Ver. What is Cabo Verde?
ADude, that is a amazing story. That's Cape Verde, which is like this tiny island which has a population of like I don't even know, 50,000 people or something like that. A team of 11 of the people have made it to the World cup which is.
BThat's.
EYeah, that's India.
BGuys, please help yourself. Wow.
DYeah. No,
CThese are an infinite loop.
ENow he's just like, I'm going to fix it. One way or another, I am going to fix it.
ACould be the cream spoon.
BSG and I will share. Oh my God.
EI cannot. What have you done?
BI. Who made it? I didn't cut the mango.
DThe mango is really good.
AI didn't cut the mango. She cut. She cut,
CBro.
AWhat's more technique keep music along the.
BYeah.
ALongitude.
BYeah.
EJust like this with the knife. Down.
BYeah. Up to down. Up to down, up to down. All the way around. I don't know. That's just how I've seen mom do it.
CIraq versus Norway. I'm getting for 311.
BIs there another spoon or should I just use this?
EThese are good mangoes, huh? But we finished. This is all the cream. We have. Mango drink and mango dessert.
DOh yeah.
BLike chilled fruit with whipped cream. It doesn't take much to be a happy.
EGoosebumps on the top of my scalp. That's how I know.
CBut it's not all fruit, you know, like.
BYeah.
EAnd that's why I agree one of my actually former students who's now a friend, we went to pick up something from her and she was eating that Ferrani mango, you know, like in the thing. And I was looking, I was like, tanya, how are you doing this?
BDude, the Mexican mango crime to have that mango.
CSo I do like the Mexican mango. Always want nothing compared to this.
BDifferent. Yeah, it's a different.
CIt's nothing compared to this. Nothing compared to any Indian mango.
EMy question, why have they not planted like these mangoes in other parts of the world?
DNo idea how it works like if
Eyou care so much about bananas, then
Bwhy not plant these food so much superior.
CI mean. Yeah, this could grow in other parts of the world also, right? Why does it just grow in India
Bknow
DAnd can you push this pin in?
BWhat am I doing?
DDon't just do anything.
BThis.
DYeah, it needs to be pushed in but you'll have to probably do it with a. Take this and hammer it in.
CMaybe other countries don't as much
Dkeep doing.
CI know Thailand has mangoes and they
Ehave good mangoes actually with their stick it's pretty good.
CIt's just a different kind of mango.
AThe Alfonso is like sweet above all creamy and mango.
CYeah, maybe. Maybe other parts of the world don't
Ejust like mango, you guys.
BIt's whipped with sugar.
AI just whipped it with.
EIt's like the perfect balance of sugar and.
DOh no. I'm so close.
BDude, give up.
DNo, no, no. I was so close.
BNo cream.
DI know. It's done, bro.
EYeah, that's usually what it is.
A12 Eastern Dam is not 6 UK 5 UK damage.
ENo, that changed because now it's 4 and a half hours between India and the UK.
AYeah, but like the US and the UK have a 5 hour. Sorry Eastern New York and no, not hour.
EIt'll have changed by an hour.
ANo, but both places.
EYeah, but different times of the year.
ANo, but right now both are in delight savings.
EYeah, that's true. One is in March, one is in May.
BYeah, but right now both are in daylight savings.
AI believe.
BI think.
AYeah, it's five hours difference.
EWhat were you doing?
DI was just playing around. Just.
EBro, I should have told you not to. Good tea.
DHello,
CKaliya Manu. This is the vraj Flush one.
BGood mangoes, no?
CYeah. Also the amount of. How many mangoes are these?
EThree.
CYeah, the mangoes that you extracted from this much is also a lot.
BAs in.
CI don't know, the. That one had those green parts,
Dthe
Cdill mango mole one. So those are to be removed. I don't know the greenish part inside
Bthe overripe, soft, mushy.
CYeah.
EOkay.
BOkay.
CIt was not perfect like clean and like with a good UI UX like this.
DSo.
BNo. Yeah, these mangoes are fine.
AAnd the ones we had this time last week too.
CGood.
BYeah, it's peak season right now,
ASo it's too. I mean I. I saw how much sugar I put in there. If I were to eat most of that at this hour.
BWe can cut more mango tomorrow. It can be a small amount.
DYeah, yeah. Need to wash my Hands.
CI'm having one. Like a chicken wing, dude.
BThe feeling of sinking your teeth into, like, mango flesh can't be beat. Like, today evening, only Sajan and I ate mango. But still hitting.
AWhen I first learned how to feed mangoes, like, completely, I would just peel them and then I would just eat the whole thing.
BYeah, I did that. I think yesterday I did that.
ERight?
BOr day before today. No, no, the full, full mango.
AYeah.
EYeah.
AIt's really messy, but it's worth it.
CI still like it. Cutting, like, perfect cubes.
AYeah, but can you cut it yourself? No.
BWhen I was a child, apparently my mom would, like, just peel it, give me the ball, and, like, just put me in a corner with, like, a bowl. Fine. She'll entertain herself with this for the next. No, it would be everywhere.
DOkay.
BBut she was happy to just leave me with a mango. And I would also be very entertained. No noise, no crying, just eating this mango. But it would get everywhere, right? Like, face, chin, neck, arms. And then she would, like, rinse me off, but she wasn't bathing me after I ate a mango. So then everyone who lifted me after that could smell mango on me. And during mango season, like, if you lifted me, you could smell mango. And it just became a thing known in my family that, like, during summer, if you lift. Meha. She's gonna lift. Smell like mango.
AIt's a good smell.
BI mean, fair. But, like, then, years later, in, like, 2013, I think my brother went to France and, like, he walked into one of those, like, perfume shops when they, like, make a custom perfume you. And you can make any perfume you want. And he was like, I'm going to make a mango perfume for my sister. And he was with some friends, and they were like, no, no, Try florals. Try anything.
ELike, why mango?
BWhy are you sticking to mango? And he was like, I know what I'm doing.
EThat smells pretty good, I think.
BYeah, I still have. It actually smells very much like mango, but. Yeah. Yeah, it's not a perfume that, like, would smell like a traditional perfume. It smells like mango. But it's good.
EYeah.
BI mean, to me, at least it's good.
CI don't know. It sounds weird, but it'll be nice.
BIt's nice.
EYeah.
BEven Sajan's gifted me a mango perfume one year.
CI didn't know they exist.
BYeah. Fleur makes one.
EIt's good. Yeah, I can imagine.
BSmell good. I now have. I'm now the proud owner of two mango perfumes.
DYou have mango hand cream also?
BI have mango hand cream. This is a mango candle. Yeah. Yeah, it's. No, it's there. Yes.
EYeah. Thank you.
BPress the button, you push it up and then you.
EYeah, these are some advanced plus candle lighters. Cool ones.
BThat's pushed up now. You press the button.
CI have the. I have the one that looks like a lamp. Like, it's. It can. It's like that. The bendy one. But it's pretty cool.
BYeah. Yeah.
CLike, I keep. When I'm working. No. And I'm attending calls, I keep switching it on. Like. And I keep zapping random things.
BIt makes a sound, like at a frequency which I don't like.
CI love it. It feels like I'm in, like, you know, like one of those Star wars blasters.
BLike, it makes a very high pitched sound.
CDude, I keep burning random things. Things I should stop. Like, this won't end well on my desk. Just random things. Like, I find a leaf, a dead leaf. I'll burn in like a tissue. I'll try to burn my spoon.
BThis is not going to end well. The masculine urge.
DYeah, there is some urge to burn.
CYeah. Like, yeah, I love burning stuff. I want to just see what flames will do to different things.
BAre men okay?
CYeah, I always had that, like, as a child, like, even when with Diwali firecrackers, I would keep all the. I would keep all the boxes and make a whole pile. And then I keep burning. I want to keep making the fire bigger and bigger.
DOr even like a campfire, like adding.
CYeah, I just want to burn.
DLike you want to sustain.
CSustain. And then you want to keep seeing what can keep burning. What. I didn't do the deodorant one, though, that I know people did on school trips.
BLike Deepa do it at kc. No, that was insane.
AWhat is she.
BExactly what he did.
CTake a lighter and then spray deodorant. So had a physics teacher.
APhysics tuition or whatever. He was a cool physics teacher. He was like, oh, I should have it.
EWe all have one.
BCool. Physics.
CPhysics. Yeah.
BCool. In air coats.
ALike, so the station was out of one of my friends's houses. He asked him for a deal. He got the Dior. He picks me. Okay. I mean, I volunteer, but like, he puts. Basically, he sprayed an eye on my T shirt.
BOh, no, no, no, no. And he lit it on your T shirt.
DYeah.
AAnd like, I didn't feel that he. That's the crazy thing. Like, the whole thing. I mean.
BYes, but he literally, that's. He would have gone to jail for that here.
DYeah.
ABut it was like I trusted him.
BSo I'm sure it was fine. But like that's insane.
ALike yeah, I didn't feel the heat. Like it was on my body basically.
CWait, why didn't you feel the heat?
BThe fuel was just the deodorant. I guess it was not burning on the teeth. But that doesn't sound safe at all.
CDude. Boys are dude random things. I remember 9th and 10th standard. There were these things. Three guys.
DThey.
BOh yeah, I know. What Scorpion.
CNo, that is different. They wanted to. This is L, this has happened. I've not seen it happen. I've heard about. They wanted to like light a guy's nipples and see if they catch fire. He agreed. They were trying that with a lighter, dude.
BEven Shrey, like one of Shrey's classmates one time bought so he, he didn't drink. There was a sober friend who bought a bottle of vodka, took it to his room and set it on fire. Like used a lighter to set the bottle of water. And alcohol is a clean fuel. So no smoke when burning whatever. But he wanted to just test how long it takes to burn a whole bottle of vodka. So he lit it and then for the next hour or so he was just watching it burn. Like for more than I was. Like a proper bottle of vodka.
CYeah, I remember.
BI'm sure you can google this information per milliliter of alcohol, how time taken to burn, whatever.
ABut that was before we got so chronically online. And I think this is probably an evolutionary thing. Like this
Cwant to burn things.
DDefinitely.
CLike I just, I, I, I just want to see what happens and flame touch different things like how they react.
BLike, like this is not a curiosity I have. So this is also maybe gendered then?
CIt is, it is gender. I think what you are saying is right. It's an evolutionary thing.
AAnd for me it's not that like I'm not really that. I mean I, I, I CB earlier on when you have a campfire and keeping going as excited. But this Tito we weren't expected of in his hotel in his hostel room in Manipal, he was like put sanitize on his table and just light it. And like he would just be sitting
Bthere like watching the Santa.
COh yeah. Fire is so beautiful.
BLike it is. I agree. But I'm not going to light the T shirt I am wearing.
CYeah, I know. I mean I know at one point. I know my brain will.
DShe's back.
COh, that is why I love doing Tadakas and all. Also it's so interesting. Like how much flame can you Blast.
AI actually got a flamethrower. Like a mini
Csteak. You can the propane.
BYeah. I've seriously considered getting one, but I think it's. I think everyone sleeps better knowing I don't have one of those.
DWe have one.
CWhy?
BNo, you have the jet light.
CWhat will you do with it?
DIt's a beauty.
BYes, but it's not got the output that what he has done. Top drawer. Your top drawer.
DNo, it's not there. I haven't seen it in a while.
BThat's where I used to remember it being, but I also haven't looked for it.
CBut why will people not trust you with the.
BBro, I am not fully, like, hand eye coordination is not there 100%.
CI think it's that. Oh, this. Oh, bro, this is so cool. Sure.
DDamn. I have a butane refill also.
BAnd you can change the strength of the flame.
DYeah.
AFire gave you power, I guess, when
Dyou were, like, evolving. Yeah.
BAnd made food better. Tb.
DAll. All, like, babies are also so into, like, want to touch the flame and understand what it is. Right?
BYeah.
DEveryone's done that.
BOh, my God, dude.
CBut baby, this is the start. Like, fire was the start of everything.
BLike, yeah, Prometheus died for your sins. Yeah, dude, the other day I was underwater.
CYou can now home deliver idli because of fire.
BBarely toddler, like, just learning to walk about on his own. So mom's sitting on all those benches, and the child is like two feet away from her. And as long as the child's safe, like, the mom's not paying 100% attention, the child bends down, picks up a goose poop in its hand. And now the mom is, like, in conversation and, like, in slow motion. This happening. Like there is a small window before this goes into mouth. Right. Because child picks up poop.
CWhy do you want that?
DBut for creme brulee only?
BI think, no, he wanted a jet lighter. And I was like, I will use this for creme brulee.
CThere's a Tesla flamethrower. How are flamethrowers just being sold on ebay?
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