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AIs low. Both has a different asset class. While you target for an example, if you target hua, mostly those are like somewhere nearby downtown. Like for an example, HOA project are like in New Jersey, HOA projects are there in Long Island City. HU projects are there like in la San Diego. So these are the HUA projects. So you see like there is a nearby a town or nearby some city which is like attracting people to go and stay nearby this area so that they can work here. And mostly those are residential or the mixed use kind of thing. While you see the rural rural are mostly like some of the rural are in Most of the rural are in Colorado, then the Napa Valley and Utah. So these are the projects where you need a demand driver around. It means either a national park or a skiing or something which is a driving and demand or so both has their own flavor while you select the product. If you go for a rural mostly it is like based on the hospitality or it is based on some industrial product industrial thing like mining or like steel plant or power plant or something or the result or something. Or if you go for a rural then it HOA then it would be mostly a residential or the 5 star hotel targeting the different the business class people. So so these are the two asset class that you have to choose from. Either so risk wise. According to us, both has their own risk to be a analyzed. We cannot say HO is always safer. Rural is always risky. Both as their own risk and risk needs to be analyzed project to project. So that is a risk wise. Now immigration wise there is a huge difference in the speed of the immigration only why you select HUA or the rural. So as see because the rural has 20% visa reserved and the priority processing while hu has a 10% reserve design, no priority processing. And both the category would give you the EAD and AP at the same time within four to five months. So so now now your decision is like totally based on how soon you want green card in your life. And that is your decision you have to make. Rural may give you a green card within a year. HUA may give you a green card within two to three years. Could be more because of their if by the backlog hits. So your decision is like rural past green card and the locations are like not so popular HUA late green card. But you can still get a popular location to invest in. So these are the points that you need to consider while you make your choice rural or the hu. So so once you make this choice, the next next stage is like the selecting of the regional center. So there Is something most critical part because when you do this EB5 investment or when you do this agreements, you write down an agreement called PPM Private placement memorandum. And you sign this agreement with regional center. And all this agreement says I am giving you 800,000. I know this 800,000 is at risk. It may not come back. I may not get green card, but I am okay to still do this, right? That is, you already giving them in writing Readna center on behalf of you collect all this 800,000 and giving it to the developer. And they write a different agreement with the developer. And that agreement has multiple clauses like the collateral and the guarantees and the maximum they can do to protect you. So intent and the experience of the regional center is very important. Because the experience of the regional center and the intent of the regional center will drive how strong this agreements would be with the developer. So for that reason, not compromising on the quality of the regional center is the key. And to assess the quality of the regional center the best way is to check the track record and audited report. So these are the best way. And most of the regional center of a good quality they do have the track record audited. And the document documentations are available on request. So whenever you ask them to share the documents, you get the documents. So. So not compromising on the quality of the regional center. Being on top four to five regional center is something that we always advise to. Sometimes you have to wait for a month or so to get a good project of those regional center. But it's worth waiting. That is something that we always advise. Because this is not something that like you can do undo. This is not once it is done, it is done. Either it is success or failure. It's a binary result. It's not something in between. So for that reason, sometimes it happens like a good, good regional center may take time for a new project, but it's worth waiting. So that is how we. I mean generally that this is the process that we would like to go for selecting of the category selecting of of the regional center. And then give you the options of all this those project which is under those regional centers as an oils and comparative analysis. And in the competitive analysis now we will do deep analysis on the risk associated of the project. So the project specific risk could be compared in two minutes investment risk and the immediate risk. Because why you do this, you are chasing two drinks, right? Getting your green card and getting your money back. So these are the two dreams here that you continuously chasing here. So in that situation, the analyzing the risk associated with the investment and we call it is a red flag report. So we do produce a red flag report which shows the what are these risks associated if you do Project A versus Project B versus Project C and we have to choose the least number of red flags There is no project without red flag. But yes the job is to choose the least number of red flags and the maximum protections so these are the way yeah so so you any questions so far or do you have you seen any project so far or the talk to Regional center something that you you you would like to ask for.
BNo questions so far I think what I think all of us probably knew a lot of what you mentioned since since we've been researching for a bit I don't think the top five RCs that you've mentioned in your list I don't think any of us have researched those specific ones but yeah because two of them haven't even released their official documents the can am1 and the GDG1 so waiting for documents on those Kali Hotel and CMB100 are something that we can look at but would love to hear your thoughts first and like see your analysis on it first.
ASo so see Kali Hotels CMB's Group 101 is has just released marketing of their HQL Las Vegas residential project so if anybody is looking hua project these are our three topics so not only do these three can be considered and these three something because one is residential one one is hospitality and one is logistics so these are the three asset class together. Yeah and and we need to go more deep into the analysis while what's the capital stake and the exit strategy sequence and the collateral part that is we have not yet got information from the Canon but yes we got information from rest of the project Kali and Group Hundred so yes these three can be compared and select from and these are I think very much into our timeline Carl this can be funded and filed by first week of November I guess first week or second week of November either of Group Hundred is ready Kali and Kali has filed the Amendment on the 956 so they are waiting for a new new document to be released so right now they are not releasing the this the subscription document and Canon can am I think they are still won't be releasing the offering documents by end of this month so yes so these three can be considered if you ask us by the what to say the asset class that we would generally like to go for for us is like residential followed by any industrial followed by hotel so that is something of sequence because residential is considered as a need of the. And what to say the society. So residential is it Residential for rent generally considered as a recession proof asset class because even if there is a recession people stay somewhere. They may not buy new home, they may not buy second home, they may sell their own home, but they will definitely stay somewhere. So residential for rent is something recession free that we would always like to go for. And Thari Hotel itself is like because of the location and the exclusivity because it's in the Hollywood city just opposite to Sofa Stadium. I have myself visited the location. So it's a very prime location. Fifteen minutes from the airport. Yeah. Because from there I directly left for the airport. So it was like Almost it took 15 minutes from the airport and it was a very nicely located Construction already been started and the developer himself and the promoter I should say the Kali Chaudhary is a billionaire of and he himself has like a enough funding to do this. So they are not not waiting for the EB5 to raise the fund and get it executed. So yes, Kali Hotel is a good good bet if because out of all these three Kali Hotel is ahead in the 956F filing and the construction both. Yeah but you you.
BYou mentioned like they are filing for a new amendment like Amendment for their 956. Why?
AI think because of this. Some. Some change in the capital structure cost has increased. So the this guy the equity has has like equity equity has like player has increased their funding as well as the EB5 increase their funding. So capital stake needs to be updated. So they're filing the amendment right now.
BBut the capital stack has nothing to do with the the i956. Right. Like that only has a rural classification or Hua classification.
AOh so i956 if it consists of all the details available including capital stack including the equity part include including the the the how much that you are investing from the EB5. Because changing in capital stake is a changing in cost is a changing in EB5 fundraising is a changing in number of investors. So it's a linked process.
BOkay.
AIf one is changed there are multiple changes to visit. So yeah so they're updating the i956F and waiting for filling this amendment. Then only they will be able to accept the funding. And they are accepting funding but not the filing.
BOkay so so so when the new i956 comes and like new capital structure is decided they will release new subscription documents as well.
AYeah sir so the everything is done. They are waiting for the economical report, new economical report to be updated and and attached with the 956F expecting. Because I have already three. Three clients funded that they are waiting for the file. So I think they are expecting to get it done by between 15 to 20th of this month.
BOkay.
AYeah. So it's a good project to consider. Yes, and it is our topic as far as anybody's considering. Hua.
BOkay, I see. And I think Meha talked to Civitas about it and they said that like it's running ahead in construction and it's like they're expecting it to be completed by like summer of next year or like fall of next year. So if it's already be almost fully constructed, how will our capital be used in the project up for two years?
AThey will see. Your capital has to be invested in the project for two years. It can be utilized within two months. Investment has to be there, you cannot take it back. But your capital would be entirely utilized during the period of construction.
BSo.
ASo yes, I mean once the capital is utilized, they generate job credits and the job credits will be allocated due to at the time of I improvement.
BSo.
ASo to meet your sustainment guidelines, your capital requires to be remain invested. Not necessarily that you have to keep constructing for two years. Construction can be of one year, but you cannot take it out because that capital is anyhow not generating enough revenue to pay you back immediately. So you remain invested. Then they will go for the stabilization, then they will go for the refinance and they then you will get your money back. So anyhow you will get your money money back at the end of the fourth or fifth year.
BOkay.
ASo before that you are not getting money and you are fulfilling the sustainment period right here.
BGot it. Okay. And CMB100 is.
AThe CMB is known for the logistic facilities project. They have done almost more than 15 logistics facilities for the project till now. It is very cookie cutter project for them. They. It's like build to rent. Then they have like somebody who will already want to get lease of this project. They will raise the fund, they will construct, give it to lease and exit. So this is something very cookie cutter for them, I think. But the only, only part is like five floor one. I guess it is for six years investment.
BOkay, got it.
AThe cmb, right? Sometimes CMB is known for not for all, not all the time. But sometimes it is not for redeployment. It means like, because this project of the project, the nature of this project is not Like a huge construction. Right. Logistic process. It does not need like a fancy construction for construction is on a stabilization is sooner, refinance is sooner. Then there is a probability they use your money for redeployment and putting it into the next project for a year or so. Not sure, but then.
BGot it, got it. Okay. So out of these three essentially, I mean none of them, we don't have the docs for any of them. Right. We can't actually look deep into any of these three projects right now.
AYeah, yeah. I think we do have a KNOX for D. But it is old one. Better we get the updated one.
BYeah, yeah.
ABecause multiple, multiple things have been changed in the updated one. So. So if you are targeting any of these three, then target to file by second week of November.
BGot it.
AFirst week. Because none of these three would be any ready to file. Might be a group hundred would be ready to file. So then on end of October, if not group hundred then like mid October.
BI see.
AAnd any information, what's your timing look like?
BI think we are ready to file. Like I think we. I just want to confirm with my lawyer but they haven't said anything. Like they've just asked us some questions and we've answered them and they've not really said anything. I think it's pretty much done. Like we can file next week also. But I'll let others talk about their timelines. Yeah, I'm looking to.
AI'm still discussing with my lawyer.
BSo I'll mostly file December to Feb.
ALike that's kind of the time. Okay, okay. And then you have like more open options to explore because coming, coming months in November. Like we, we may see few projects from EV5 Capital Avitas is launching again, a new rural project then. Yeah, Kenya might be launching in December, not before that. But yes, Capital Civitas. These two, these two are coming up with their new rural project. So yeah, you will have more options to execute end of the November. But if anybody is targeting by mid of the November, like we have very limited choices to choose from.
BI should say pr. I think PR is also looking to file asa.
CMine is. Yeah, mine is already. I mean mine is also like almost done. So I mean they ask like some small questions I answered.
AAnd anybody of you would like to try for a rural project? Because I'm not sure we will be getting a slot or not. But any of you would like to go for a rural project then we have to plan in advance. Apply. I mean, I mean send the name in advance, send the questioner in advance and try to resolve this lot well in advance. So. So. So we do have like a two project coming up. Civitas and this guy, Golden Gate Global. I'm not sure we will get this lot or not for you guys. But if you are interested then we can try. But. But yeah, only if you say like okay something. It may work for you.
BYeah, I mean we definitely be interested. What are the. Do you know? But I mean to know if you're interested, we know we need to know some more details about the project.
AAlso you. Have you gone through the presentation or you. Or we can. We can walk you through.
BI think Pradeepta might already have an idea. Pradeepta, you. You must have looked at it, right?
CWhich one?
BDgg?
CYeah, I mean ggg I think like everything looks good but like apparently they have some lawsuits against them on this one. Like on the mammoth project.
ALike the boundaries crossing with somebody else.
COr like somebody else had filed some lawsuit or something like that.
AI read.
CSo I'm not sure about that one. But the Civitas look better to me. Yeah.
AYou would like to see the fast Forward way project?
BSure. Yeah. I mean. I mean honestly I can look it into it later. Like we don't have to use everyone's time for that. What is the Civitas rural project?
AYeah, because the project. What important things needs to be seen in the project that we can walk you through. So you exactly know like this is good or bad kind of thing. The capital structure and the loan to value and the loan to cost and the exit strategy and they call it. So these are the. The parameters. Once you see this parameter, you exactly know what are the risks associated in the both the project. I will send you the comparative analysis as well. But yes, if, if, if given an option. Civitas residential for rent in Colorado as a higher. Like. Like. Like age or the Golden Gate Globals marriage and Hilton Hotel. It's a budgeted hotel in memor. So two. Two rurals are there. If you can't get or if you do not like to get into these two rurals, then definitely you should go for H because there are no good rural around. So man, good H is better than. I mean going into the bad rural project.
BGot it. And what. What is the timeline for the Civitas R.
AThis month? I mean both are like coming in this month. Coming months. They will be filing I956.
BI see.
CAnd when do we expect them to be like fully subscribed?
AWe need to be ready soon because.
CI think I have 30 to 40 days more before I'm ready.
AYeah. So let's see for the Civitas, they have 33 slots and their capital structure has revised to 40 slots. Maybe 40 slots. Out of these 40 slots, almost 50% are already reserved. People have funded them 20,000 and reserve this lot because they gave the options to few of the agents like us. We are one of them that if our client wants to reserve this lot, they accepted 20,000 and give the reservation before the launch. So once it is launched, 20 slots after launching is a job of three days.
COkay.
AMaximum within three days it will looks like it will get sold out. Okay.
BOkay.
AAnd yeah, and, and, and so as I said, yeah, Golden may take time a week or two after the launching, but your CV will fly faster.
CYeah, the CV test look like a bit better than like the one.
AYeah. Because the merit wise RC wise civil upper edge. The project itself is like as I said, like residential for grant. And the location, it is a small project, like 50 to $55 million. Something very, very small project. The it's a phase two of existing apartment. There's existing apartment is also enjoying like 98 occupancy it since last four years. Oh, it's not something they are expecting inventing their first time. It is something. It's already there. It's just extending these same facilities. And, and because of that reason, it looks like the project has a good merit to sell very quickly.
BI see.
ABut why I'm asking. This is like we should not be feeling like after the launch you think like okay, this was something good, I want to try for it. Then definitely we don't get chance for any. If you think like this is something is is like of your interest. We should try before the launch.
BGot it.
ANot after the launch. After the launch. I mean I think they will entertain somebody who is like already with ready with the money and ready with the documentation and a single click away for 800,000.
B800. Got it, got it. Okay.
AOh, so who run these two options and hua three options. So we do have five options to choose from considering. We do not want to compromise on the quality of the RC and we are not going beyond top four.
BOkay. Yeah.
CWould you recommend rural or as I.
ASay before, I mean you, you joined like we were discussing that the rural only if we get the good quality on our end like a good rc. Do not compromise on the quality of the RC just because of the category.
CDo you like think it needed to race like this year?
AThis year 2002, 5 not but yes definitely in 2002 6.
CAnd if it retrogresses do you think like the urban one will like will be late to hit or like.
AHere. Here is like a. The as for the last data like if you have seen the USCIS release data Till I think June 2025 the data says urban has 3 around 300 application in last 6 months for Indians Hua sorry not urban Hua while the rural has 900 applications 3 times. So they now the situation is that there is a probability that retrogression hit in the rural category before the HUA category and takes more time to clear a duran than the HUA because the applications and the queue is three times than the HUA in the rural. So so mathematic mathematically it looks like rural might hit the retrogression before and it will last for long.
CBut I thought like I read in like within the 2000 there is no.
ACountry cap or something like that unless it is retrograded. Once it is retrograded, it's a configuration.
COkay.
ASanjay, do you have more data to to discuss.
BSo.
DNot as of now because aggregation is a very difficult subject. The thing is what we are looking at here is retrogradion always hits on the consumption of the consumption of the visa, right? So what increasingly we are seeing the consumption of visa is happening more in the rural category than the H2A category. For example, let's say there are 2000 visas available, 1700 visas are getting consumed because rural are getting faster approval. Who are getting the faster allocation? What is the achievement? Like I have only thousand visas, that's 10% but out of that thousand only.
A300 or 400 are getting utilized.
DSo the supply, the available supply is still higher in the hqa, right? So because of the last three quarters I would say more inclination towards the rural. Everyone has filed rural and rural are getting faster adjudicated as well. So they got adjudicated in six to eight month kind of thing. And that's why USCIS started consuming the visas as well. Looks like that rural might get retrogressed before of the before I mean ahead of the hoa. But there is an advantage in the rural category as well because they have the double the supply than the hua. So even if that retrogress they have the double supply to meet the expectation. So what we generally advise our investor is if you feel that you are comfortable with being on EAD and AP for at least 18 months to 24 months, you should. You can definitely look at HGA projects, right? But if you feel that. No, I still don't want to get into that where I have to wait longer. Makes sense.
AYou should look for a rural project.
DBut let's say we have many investors in their young age who do not have the criteria. I mean other kids, or maybe they have the kids, but really citizen themselves because they born there. They are increasingly choosing the HDF projects.
ANow because if you have. If you. You are on H1B if your spouse is on a separate H1B then you have a multiple safety bed, right? Your H1B spouse, H1B, you can be on H4, she can be on H4 and you can use this EAD in AP. So I think immigration is not your risk. If immigration is not your risk and if your immigration aging out kids is not your risk, then HUA is a good bet, right?
BSo if. If like assuming we are indifferent. If like immigration is not a problem and because we're already in the US we have. We'll get our EADs. What project then looks strongest to you? Like, like for rural you said it's the Civitas one for hua, what would it be? You said the Kali one. But if you want to compare those two. What. What would. Why would you choose one over the other?
ARight now we do have a very preliminary information of KM's Hua project. We just have like one presentation. That's it. Yeah, we asked for more offering documents and we are expecting to receive by a week. Also because more the information we have, we will have more clear. Clear idea. But I looking at the. I mean the. The prime of S. Yeah, Kali looks stronger because it's already construction started and it's ahead in the F filing and it is location wise. Also like it's a very, very good location capital structure. It looks better because in the residential project we are not a senior and junior here. Like we are senior. So. Yes. So Prima facia Kali looks better than the. The Las Vegas. But. But yeah, more information to flow. It is Canon so definitely can AM would have more. Canon is always known for the. The stronger Plan B. Like the collateral and the guarantees and the multiple things that they all always try to make it. I mean the water type agreement with the developer and they are known for that. But yes, more information to flow. Once we have those all information, we will be able to give you more comparative analysis.
BGot it.
CAnd like Kali, how about the loan duration?
AIt's five plus four plus one plus one I guess. Yeah, it's six years. And like this one also like Canon is also like four is five plus one. I four plus one. Sorry. Five years. Five years. Four plus one.
BSo a lot of these projects are like very high loan terms. Basically. Yeah.
AFive years is something any digital center will take your money. Because even if you see this project like gold and get global, they are saying three plus one plus one. But your loan term starts once you finish your entire 800,000. They take the disbursement even. Even if you give them 800,000 today. And if you take your disbursement in January or maybe February or March, your loan term start from March. Not. Not. Not today. So even if it is three plus one plus one, it is more than five. The KM and Civitas, they do have a fixed loan house. They do not have like the variable loan house. So all the investor in the project would have a same start date and same end date overall.
BYeah.
CDo you have any idea about Intermistic?
AIt's an rc.
CYeah, not rc. I think it's nc. No, I was just looking at their energy project. So I was like asking.
AThat is EB5 energy.
CThat is no EB5 energy. I think they sounded fraud.
ARight.
BLike.
AYeah.
BIntermistake is making like a cobalt. Cobalt.
AIt's a kind of mining.
BIt's not. Not exactly mining. It's a cobalt processing plant. They get the cobalt from another country and process it.
ASo we. We haven't gone through the. The details.
BYeah, Pradeepta can probably. Yeah.
AIf you can share the details, we will be happy to put them into comparison. But yes, we have not gone through the details.
CYeah, I think they are like mostly marketing in Mexico. So they haven't like the targeted Indian investors at all.
AOkay.
CSo I think Surgeon only found out about that. So I was looking at that and I'm like yeah, I don't know it. I'm just curious if something looks awful.
ABecause we have analyzed similar project USSM US Strategic Metal from LCR Capital. So we do have idea on the. How this project works as an economical viability. Viability standpoint. But yeah, the specification of this project needs to be checked like the capital.
BYeah, it's a little like suspicious because. Right. They are offering 9% yearly interest rate. Yeah. So they say that only 9%.
ASo they charge.
CSo the JC is paying. No, no, no. But it makes sense because the JC is paying the NC 15% they percent of themselves and then they pass 9%. So like the 6% margin is still there kind of for which is like everybody else.
DSo number one, we have seen it mostly most deployment is happening even if it's a. It's a hardware project at a construction level. The deployment from NC happens at around 8% or 9% max. This is the range in fact. So see if developer wants to replace the bank finance because bank is already available to them to finance. The bank finance is available at around nine nine and a half percent. So EB5 is just replacing the bank finance by cutting them up.
CYeah that's probably true for. Yeah that's probably true for like let's say real estate because this is like mining or whatever Their bank is the US government itself. So it's like a XIM bank SIM which is like the government backed bank like US government bank back bank.
ASo this is curious USSR maybe the.
BThe.
AThe borrowing was around 15% because they.
DAlways have a higher risk so they.
AWant to prefer a higher rate of deployment, you know.
CYeah but they were passing like 1 or 2% back which like. So they are keeping 1315 to themselves. Like 13% to themselves.
AYeah yeah, yeah. So USSM was also similar but the only thing that was. I mean other than the. The technicality of the project the industry as a matter as a multiple moving parts like the government policies and the import and export duties and like these. These moving parts are like not in like a control of the internal center or the developer with it's all good intent There could be a situation where like things.
CYeah, it's not like government policy based.
AYeah yeah yeah. So that was not comforting us because it is heavily dependent on how government looks the metal market to go on tomorrow if. Because even. Even today the same thing if they start importing from China it is cheaper than producing in USA so so there is a risk always if any government changes and they start allowing the import of this from China then the all the domestic market will go down. So yeah so there were. There were multiple moving parts. So generally what we think like let's do something which is very cookie cutter pesa building right Simple. Whether you give me my money back or I do have a building. So my worst case scenario should be the delay not the losing of capital.
BRight.
ABecause the applicator if there is a project of mining your. Your what to say the collateral is what machineries or licenses or the land having a value of the metal also considered. So all this collateral is like useless for any investor. I mean machinery are depreciating assets. Then the licenses are not of use. And and the land with considering the value of the metal that you say like this is a 500 million dollar of land against out of 500 million dollars they consider 300 million dollar as a metal value and 200. So then that is also useless because unless you extract that metal, there is land is of zero. The collateral is very low in such kind of project. Nothing as good as no collateral.
BYeah, yeah, yeah. I mean we can share the docs and you can have a look and we can discuss. I mean personally I. I think it's too early to invest in that project. There's not enough guarantees right now.
AOkay.
BBut.
AYeah, so. So guys, from your side, I need to answer. You want to try for rural or not? You let us know then we will pull the trigger. Because it is like getting a slot in the rural. Have to pull push hard. It's not some easy thing that will be just walk, walk and they will give us this slot. We have to. I mean they push hard to get this lot in the rural. If not then we can skip and we will do more due diligence on the hqa. Which are the ones right now.
BYeah, I think we do want to investigate at least I do want to investigate rural also.
CYeah, I think I like the secret as well. So.
AYeah, me too.
BAnd what is the other question?
AAnything else that you. You like to. Are.
BNot really. We just. I. I think we're at. At least for the HUA ones we're at the point where we can like just discuss the macros of the project, get a better sense of them. Same for the rural ones.
AYou. You. You got the details for Canep?
BYeah, I mean yeah, the book, the subscript. Like not the subscription documents but just like the marketing material.
AOkay. So I think by the time we are. We are working on this rural. Let's have a call with Canon this. Because they started accepting the. The marketing calls and putting everybody in the queue because it's also 50 slots. So that is also. They have like started putting the wait list for this 50 slots. So we should be getting into the queue by. By initiating the call.
BOkay. Yeah.
AOkay. Is there. And I think you. You had a presentation for Kali already, right? Or anybody.
BYeah, yeah, we did. But yeah, we don't have the latest numbers that. It's just the old marketing material.
AYeah, so there will be. Right now they're. They're. I think we will checking their data room. I think they have not uploaded yet.
BOkay.
AYeah.
DSo 15 they are planning to do that.
AOkay. So by 15 we will have the updated material.
BOkay, Cool. Anything else you need from us?
ANo, no, no. Fine. So. So right now I'm considering that we should try for this semiclass. Right?
BYeah. Kali Hotel. I mean first let's just get a macro picture of what's there. Based on the macro picture. We can focus on which one. But yeah, rural one. We do want to consider it. So just. Yeah.
AOkay. Okay. Thank you. When they.
CWhen are they filing the rural silver throne?
AI think they are saying this month and consider the last winner.
BI think. Yeah, we will. I mean I.
AIt's a November file for sure.
BYeah. I will like talk with these guys and we can also have a look at just like the overall picture for all of these and maybe we can tell you like which ones we want to focus on.
AYeah.
BCool.
DIf you got the info for the EB5 capitalist rural project as well or they are also coming up with a new rural and similar like multi family asset class. But they are at least three to four weeks away to file the F. They must be finding in second week of November. Is that the right timeline?
AYeah, no, I. I think Ayush can consider because it looks like end of November filing. Okay. Or it can be considered by Ayush. I think Sajan and Deep, both of them are like planning on 1st of the November support them like 3QA and rural and total is only if we get slaughtered. And three.
BYeah.
AI'm.
CI'm also looking for mid November.
AOkay. Okay. I think you. You can still chase this. Three Hua. And two. Two, three and two. Yes.
BYeah.
ABecause in the D category even if you do the like the entire. If we file by mid of the November or something, they just. We just need to give them the commitment and the initial amount to book this lot in the rural and they are not expecting like entire 800,000 on days you know we can say okay we will be filing mid of the November. We'll giving you 200,000 there and rest in the like like December or something. They are okay. But yeah, booking this lot, paying them 20,000 is something that reserving our slot.
BCool. Yeah. Okay.
AAnd then yeah. And. And yes for all the. For any regional center that you choose working wires, your admin fee is zero. So you. You don't have to pay any administrators to any regional center. And Civitas they do charge 20,000 admin fees. They don't do zero by their policies like company policies in that situation India. So and over and above lawyer stuff is up to 20,000 that we will be developing. So after lower B we'll make zero. The lower zero here. Zero here for any. Any of this regional center that you choose.
BCool. Yeah. I've already told them like about this thing.
AThat.
BArgument for hire Care to. Usually.
AIf you go with Dennis, if you go with kld if you go with Brandon. He might be feeling not to do it. But every everybody else is doing it. This is part of their job.
CShould I trust them?
AAs far as see as far as your entire transactions are within USA it could be complex but. But we do not see that you will face any issue in there because it is already in the USA. You might get. You might even if you get RFID it's dissolved because it's not something. Those are the risky foundations. Those are the interdisciplinary government. So that is something a very risky transaction. But as far as your transactions are online within USA I do not think it might be a complex and tedious job. But yes, I think it is doable or the only thing with these guys are like they are slow.
BI think this is good advice.
AWe work with all of them like. There. Okay.
BOkay cool. Yeah we'll.
ALet'S be in touch or we'll keep you posted on the this side in regional centers and joby updated. Let's target joby health ruralness, not health.
BOkay, sounds good. Okay, thank you.
CPerfect.
AThank you.
BThank you.
AYeah, thanks.
CThank you.
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