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AWe went to meet Suraj and some other friends.
BOkay.
AShalaj, do you remember Shalaj And Bobby? Bobby, I don't think you know but Choksi has sent me this text yesterday. Bobby, Shallaj and Suraj were asking me what is your least favorite race? I said none. And they said it's a safe space. Everyone has one.
BThat's true.
AAnd they were posturing it as some very gotcha dark humour. Funny thing.
BI judge chokes you on this. I 100% judge chokes you on this.
AHe's like, but no, like in general. I remember when Suraj and Kuchi just started dating. Kuchi is sitting in a room with me and Krazio and she's like, yeah, I think Suraj is perfect for me because he also didn't want anyone with a body count of more than five. And my body counts like three. So it's totally fine. And Kridju and I are sitting there like. Like what the are you talking about? You like, you know, so you wouldn't.
BWant to talk to your friend about like are you making the right decision?
ABut the thing is Kuchi is also soft. Soft orthodox. Like she also buys into these things. Like she's always talked about I will get married by this age and have kids by this age and this is the life I want. And she's very smart, very hardworking. Academically speaking, fine. But like that doesn't translate to liberal values. She still believes women have fit into life. She could.
BAnd no, I hope she.
AYeah, I hope she doesn't same. But like she, she also agrees with soft. Agrees with some of these like very regressive orthodox things where like it's okay for a boyfriend to say your body can't be more than this. Like can you imagine some guy saying body count?
BI would honestly mind. I like, I think if I end up with someone there has to be a minimum.
AMinimum.
BCuz like you have to be like I cannot date someone who's not had experience.
AFair.
BI don't think so.
AThat's fair. And that's also like somewhat not. That's the opposite of a toxic thing to say.
BMaybe, maybe it's too toxic. I don't know.
AI don't know. But like Kuchi's thing was like clearly toxic. Like how can a boy say you can't have slept with more than five people otherwise? Yeah.
BBut like give him a chance.
AI don't know. But like she, I think soft. She is soft orthodox. He is hard orthodox.
BWhat did she find in the day? Citizenship He's u. S. Citizen and a porn trader.
ABut she.
BWait, so he did his masters and stuff in India?
AYes, he was in suratkal. Nit Suratkal. And then he did his masters from the same program as Rajan. Just one year later. Next batch. Yeah.
BInsane.
AHe's a. He's a software engineer. He's not.
BNo, he's quant.
AHe's not quant.
BHe was at least like from the same background.
AI don't think he. His role is not quant.
BRich guy. Basic.
ANo, because Kuchi makes more than him.
CWe don't know that.
AKuchi has said that.
CWe don't know that.
AWhat do you mean?
BThat's a valid point. You don't know from the both sides.
CYeah, told us. It's like third hand information.
AThis information is not from. I don't remember ever having this con. I told choksi this. You're remembering me telling choksi I heard it from kriju.
BGuys, I'm just saying some stuff out there. It's not serious.
AWhat's not saying?
BWhatever I said.
CNo, no, you didn't say anything.
AThis is us.
CShe said something and I feel like old choksi.
AMy source was krijzyu.
CI clearly remember.
AGod. I. My source is kriju. And I was the one to tell Choksi because Choksi brought up.
BKritz can be kind of reliable. I feel like. Yeah.
ANo, and kritz lived with them.
BYou're her best friend.
AAnd she told me. Yeah. And kritz told me that Kuchi was always talking about how she makes more than suraj. Now that could be like a base version.
CWhatever it is. Yeah.
ALike who's like that? Maybe he's still making more, but it's like more bonus. Whatever.
CBut some. Yeah, I feel like, like, how did.
BKuchi end up with a guy like this? Like is what. Is what I've always thought childhood friends.
AChildhood friends, huh? They were in school together. They've known each other for many.
BNo, I mean, I have no. Except for the fact that he's orthodox. I have no low opinion about the guy.
AHe's pretty. He's pretty weird. Like the other day, I'm trying to be nice.
BBro. He was also. When we were drunk downstairs, he was talking about like, you need to bag chicks like this. And I'm like, bro, you were telling.
AMe he like one day, I remember Priyanshi was visiting. Priyanshi? Somali.
BHe's dating.
CI don't know this guy.
AI don't know Like, I have no idea. I'm not in touch with May.
BYou want to find out? No.
AWith Krijio, sure.
BI can ask Kriza's Tony sees it and might get married.
AMy closest source to Priyanshi is Krijio. So that's the only way I could have found out. No. But one time Priyanshi was visiting. So Priyanshi, I don't know how this circle happened, but Shoksi has gone out with Krijzio, Priyanshi, Suraj, etc. And Suraj is on some rant about how women shouldn't be allowed to get abortions. And he's talking about like this is scientifically like this and statistically like this and all that. And Josie said, look, I don't care about his political opinion. I just feel that a man shouldn't know so much about abortions. Like, no man should know so much.
BAbout abortions or be commenting on it.
ACommenting on it or be worse. But like, no man should have this much. Everyone I know.
BWhat did Choksi hear Brooks?
AHe said, I don't feel any man should know that much about. And he's like, intense conversation. Priyanshi is smoking a cigarette and she's like, look, basically I think women should choose about their own bodies. That's all I had conversation. She was just. She's like. She put out a cigarette and she's like, see, finally. I don't know all of this, what you've just said, but I feel women should decide about their own bodies.
BIf Priyanshi ever gets single, let me know.
AI will find out from the same source. You find out?
BNo, just like. Yeah, like.
AYeah, but sure. I think, I think. I don't know.
BMaybe I'm just letting you know as a single guy.
AGot it?
BIf your friend gets single, Priyanshi, you.
AGuys are very close in role number.
BWe were beside each other.
AOh, you were 54, 55.
BAnd I felt like there may have been a chance when I was dating Anusha.
AOh, I don't know.
BAnd I. I would like to.
ANext to Tushar King.
BYeah. You. You had a bad time. I had Shivang Bhadwaj on my right. The guy who made me pass on Archers and Priyanshi Somani on my left. Who I always had a crush on.
AOh, damn.
BAlways. Even while dating Shreya, I had a crush on her.
ADamn, bro. Tusha. Tusha used to smell so bad of.
BCigarettes and like that.
ALike the lab teacher. I don't know if you remember this, but One of my.
BI think you have told me this.
AShe told him, can you please stop smoking before lab. It's very unpleasant.
BHim and his girlfriend. My flatmate's girlfriend looks very similar to Devanshi.
AHonestly, they were so disgusting. Like the smell of smoke is different. He smelled like he wasn't bathing.
BI try to, but still. Yeah.
ANo, I. Like I can't smell smoke on you. At least not right now. But like he smelled like he wasn't bathing. There was like body odor issues. It was horrible. It was horrible. My God.
BI would. I really.
AI don't care. They were friends.
BSome part of you doesn't feel like you weren't here. And like you were unsuccessful. And like you got to know what their life was up to. Some part of you doesn't feel like. Yeah, like you would want to find out what they're up. Really.
AThey were also friends with that Bhaskar.
BI don't know if you know all of those toxic people. I don't want to be friends with them. But I want to know what they're about.
AThe ABVP chapter of Manipal.
BYou would always find like I have been friends or we're not friends but like acquaintances. Like chatty buddy, whatever with these guys. Like if I met Bhaskar again, he'd be like, hey, am I bro.
ASame, same. I never gave him any reason to disagree.
BOkay.
CYeah, yeah.
AFair to me. I was like, he.
BYou know, I met this guy. I never told you I met. I obviously told Varun. The guy I threw the 911 paper plane on. In first year. I went out on South Bombay cycling like some 15km midnight tour with him. 2 years ago. 2 years ago. Not very.
ASo basically you didn't burn that bridge when he threw.
BCuz I found out I did. Like I realized I did something wrong to him. So I was like, bro, I'll chill with you. Just make me feel like this was okay. Like bro, it was all chill and stuff. And like Amal Korek, she was mad chill. I hung out with him for a night. I realized he's weird.
AI feel like we're first class. Bothered Chiti.
BIt was chill for sure. Like I don't know if we'd be able to vibe with him again.
AI don't know. But like we had those three idiots in our class. No, no. First year.
BI don't know. Yeah. Okay.
AAnd Akshat, those four.
COh yeah.
BBless you. Bless you.
AI think left after first years. Yeah. And then yeah, those. Those four idiots, they were also like hardcore chillers. I think Akshat tried. Akshat tried to hit on me one night at Cafe 18. And I was like, this is not happening. I'm sorry. Like, this is just not happening. But they were there then. Like, obviously y' all were there. You Shreya Varma then Hitesh. Yeah, dude, you should text him. I. I still stay in touch with him once a year or like twice a year. We'll chat. But like still very nice to talk to him. He's just such a wholesome.
BHe's a nice guy. But yeah, he's just too nice all the time. He's a nice guy.
AYeah. He's genuinely sweet.
BHow did. Why did him and Abhishri wake up though? I don't know.
AShe. So him and her, they were in a very, very serious relationship. And he had told his parents about her to the point where she attended his sister's wedding. And like her parents were buying her clothes for the wedding, etc. Like it was from his side. It was very real. Her parents are much more conservative. Like her sister was forced into a marriage. To give you context, we went for the wedding. Her sister was forced into the marriage. So she never told her parents about Hitesh. Every time the sister didn't want to marry the guy she married and the sister is now divorced. Sister was deeply unhappy in the marriage, is now divorced. But she was forced into the marriage. But yeah, Abhishri, during college she was like, there's no way I'm telling my parents that I'm dating you. Then she was like, if I get a job, I move away from home. Because during college she was still living at home, right? So she was like, if I move away from home to Bangalore or whatever, once I get a job, I'll tell them. He was like, that's fine, up to you. I'll let you decide. You know your parents best. She in Bangalore, she didn't tell her parents. Then she was like, let me get an admit to masters. We leave India. I'll tell them they got an admit to masters, they've left India. She didn't tell them. Then she's like, I'm still like in college, Let me get a job in the US Then I'll tell them. And like every time she set one of these deadlines, Hitesh was like, I was never putting any pressure on her. I was waiting on like she came up with these deadlines herself. I'll tell them on this time. I'll tell them on this time. But this again, I'm telling you only from Hitesh's pov because I've only heard it from him. I've not heard Abhishree's side of things. But he's like, she was setting these self imposed deadlines. I'll tell them now. I'll tell them now. And every time she chickened out, it felt like, is she ashamed of me? Like, is there another reason she's not telling her parents apart from they're just conservative or they'll just not approve of someone outside the caste. Like, is she ashamed of me?
BIs communicate to you?
AI guess. But then they start disagreeing about even the basic things. She's like, I want to live in a city. He's like, I want to live where there's no one else around for five acres in any direction.
BSounds like you don't feel like your partner.
AYeah. And then like about kids, they start disagreeing about do we want to live in India or do we want to live in the U.S. where do we want to raise kids? They start disagreeing on the big things.
BBig, good, good things.
AYeah. So then after that I think those were irreconcilable differences. So I think they ended things. Both of them were very serious. But then these big disagreements, you just can't. There's no way to bridge that much of a gap. Abhishree also like she was like, my jobs are always going to be in big cities. And then like Hitesh also was very uncomfortable with this sort of comment that used to get made about like how he's going to be the person living off her salary. He was like, initially I used to joke it off. Sometimes even I made the jokes myself. But then like I didn't see her.
BJokes are not necessary.
AYeah, like I didn't see her ever like rushing to my defense or whatever. Like these jokes used to get made and I used to initially sounded like someone who was. Yeah.
BBut who was hurt in his childhood and like did not figure it out maybe.
ABut whatever. That's how the relationship ended. Now he's in a very serious relationship with someone else again. Yeah, yeah, it's been a few years now he's I think living with her.
BDidn't they break up like a few years ago?
AYeah, it's been a few years now. They broke up while she was still studying. So they broke up in 2021. It's 2025 now. He's been with this new girl for a couple of years. I think she's some. They have a, he has a cat also now. Her name is Momo. It's a food related name. I forget exactly what it is. But he has a cat and his girlfriend's white. He's living upstate, New. I think Buffalo or somewhere. Rochester, Buffalo, one of those upstate somewhere. And they're moving in together or they have moved in together.
BIt's good, good, good for them.
ABut yeah, that's all I know about. I told him if you do, let me know. He said, I'll tell you. Last I spoke to him he was like DC trip plan. My girlfriend, I hope not. But I told him New Yorker Planet. Because even when he came to New York last time, which was in 22 when I was still living in Harden.
BOh, he didn't.
AHe did that time. He stayed like he was staying with Shreya most of that trip. But one night he came to stay at my house. And then we catch up and then we don't speak to another.
BLike if I moved anywhere.
CThe only.
BThing I would imagine is probably your birthday.
AYeah, probably birthday to birthday. A lot of my friends in India like a birthday to birthday.
BFrequently difficult. Yeah, that's important. Try to work.
CJust some other work.
BSo you want to go get beers or we should. We go get beer and he's like whenever you are ready. So.
CSure. Okay, I'll tell him there's 45 minutes left.
BWe'll go get something. Newport Spirits also probably wants to drink.
CCool.
BAnd return. We can drink anywhere. His place, Vinai Place.
CReturn.
BHe's in Riverside right now.
COkay.
BI guess we come back here to.
APick it up and they'll be back in 15 minutes.
CI mean they're drinking in the theater, right? I thought we're drinking. Drinking.
BWhat we can do. I'll pregame and I'll get a six pack. So one now, one later or bag. That works.
ANo, I. Hopefully they never check.
BYou don't mind one beer. I keep with you, right?
AThey won't check. They won't check.
CI mean worst case we throw the beer. That's the worst case.
BThat's not a good idea. So we'll come back. I'll tell him I'm ready now I go get views.
CI'll meet you down at 10:30. I'll see you downstairs. 10, sorry, 10:30. Yeah.
AI'll also then start my movie because I want to sleep.
BYeah, what time you want to sleep, bro? Yeah. Okay, so I will see you in 30 minutes.
CYeah, see you.
BSee you bro.
ASee you.
BSee you in 30 minutes. Yeah. Okay. I will see you soon. Happy birthday.
ANo, no, you will. You will.
BOkay.
AI mean you'll see me on my birthday? Definitely.
BFifth, right?
AFifth.
BOkay. Let's see. You. See you in 30.
CYep. Bye. I'll text you.
BShould I help with any cleanup?
AYeah.
BI don't do my mask. See you.
ASee you. It. Samov. Mirror.
BNo.
CIt.
AL y. D. Please. Please.
CWhat is the code? What?
ABilkulvine soda. Lavinia nay.
CHow the.
AOne third half basically difference. Exactly. Exactly.
CHow is that possible?
AViney.
C20% off.
AThat's $10 above 50. It's decent.
COrange.
AFlaky chapati Mangwali. Flaky mangwali. Sure. I've tried before. They're good. I've tried Vadilal also. They're also good. The only bad paratha I've ever had is Haldiram's mooli paratha. That's genuinely the worst thing I've ever tasted.
C16P.
AAnd vegetable school. Potato. Potato. Tomatoes. Potatoes. Sorry. Yes. Exactly.
CChicken fish fishing por chicken. I don't want. I want a non frozen version.
AEmpty your packets. Ready to eat sauce. Okay. They're all the same thing. Which is equivalent to 16. We should. We should do a freezer overhaul. Start eating some of the. The things we have there. Bindi. Bindi manga. Bindi manga. Fresh bindi okra dry type.
C$.
AYes. Yes. German. The thing is American okra has different modern millions. Indian valley Bhindi milk. The American.
BOf.
AFor things that we've ordered many times before at the same price.
CLI Many times before.
AWe've bought litchi many times before. Yes.
CIt's fine. That also is not a precedent for me not independently thinking about this purchasing this.
AIt. 37 seconds only.
CBegging him.
AFew more comments. Expert mode concert Because I play on that alien mode.
CYeah. Expert Ogre default.
AI play like on a board that's like.
CYeah. Export is default.
ASub. Sub. 3 minutes. Definitely easy.
CAuto generate. Yeah. As soon as you click something it generates.
AYeah. Because the default is wherever you click.
CFirst is like be safe.
AYou don't ever open on a bomb. So.
CBut that also doesn't mean. But that also doesn't necessarily mean it could have been just an empty square. Right. It doesn't have to be a square that expands so much.
AIt doesn't have to be. Sometimes it will be only one cell.
CI have never seen that happen.
AI have played much more than you. Sometimes very small windows will open up very small windows will open up and the game will still be unplayable. Such excellent boards. You basically. Okay. I'll tell you if you want to play a good game of minesweeper. Look for something with as many crags. The smoother the shape. Like if it's just a pure rectangle, the harder it is. Something with a lot of irregularity is excellent.
CYeah, this one's great.
AYeah, this one's great. If you get a lot of corners. That's very good. Bless. You.
CHave to leave in 20 minutes.
Sadly, almost every song feels 30–60 seconds too short. Any sort of satisfying crescendo, development of tension, build towards a an emotional hook/mantra simply dissipates right where you expect things to click into overdrive. Abound with emotional lyrics and interesting sonics, but feels purposely neutered in an attempt to be unconventional
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